Chase Joy 100 Ways

#chasejoy through anxiety and depression

April 14, 2020 Nicole Groenewald Season 1 Episode 5
Chase Joy 100 Ways
#chasejoy through anxiety and depression
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6:43
Symptoms of Depression
20:25
5 tips to lift the weight of depression
Chase Joy 100 Ways
#chasejoy through anxiety and depression
Apr 14, 2020 Season 1 Episode 5
Nicole Groenewald

In this episode, we chat about the challenges of chasing joy when your mental health isn't at it's best. First, we talk through some signs you might be depressed.

If you are having thoughts of harming yourself or others or you feel unsafe please reach out to the suicide hotline at 800-273-8255 or check out their website there have a chat feature where you can talk to a counselor as well. https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org

If you're looking for some therapy services your local clinic may have telehealth options available during social distancing but you can also check out the following service...

TalkSpace
DoctorOnDemand.com
Faithful Counseling (Faith-Based Therapists)

Are you following me on Pinterest? Check out the mental health boards for journaling prompts and ideas to better manage your symptoms. 

Check out this week's new blog post.

And don't forget to follow me on Facebook and Instagram

Finally, I always appreciate it when you subscribe and leave a rating and review.

Support the show (https://paypal.me/chasejoy100ways?locale.x=en_US)

Show Notes Transcript Chapter Markers

In this episode, we chat about the challenges of chasing joy when your mental health isn't at it's best. First, we talk through some signs you might be depressed.

If you are having thoughts of harming yourself or others or you feel unsafe please reach out to the suicide hotline at 800-273-8255 or check out their website there have a chat feature where you can talk to a counselor as well. https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org

If you're looking for some therapy services your local clinic may have telehealth options available during social distancing but you can also check out the following service...

TalkSpace
DoctorOnDemand.com
Faithful Counseling (Faith-Based Therapists)

Are you following me on Pinterest? Check out the mental health boards for journaling prompts and ideas to better manage your symptoms. 

Check out this week's new blog post.

And don't forget to follow me on Facebook and Instagram

Finally, I always appreciate it when you subscribe and leave a rating and review.

Support the show (https://paypal.me/chasejoy100ways?locale.x=en_US)

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welcome to the authentic sisterhood podcast. Michael is inspiring to chase joy. No matter the difficulties you face in life through self discovery, personal growth and finding community in connection, you too can become a joy chaser. I'm your host, Nicole. Welcome to the sister. Hey, it's Nicole, your host. Thanks for hanging out with me today on the podcast. Today we're gonna be talking about chasing joy in the midst of struggling with anxiety and depression, which is very riel struggle right now with, um, quarantine and Cove it and social distancing. And all of these things are definitely playing a huge role in mental health struggles. Even those who have, maybe not ever really had mental health struggles are now starting to experience some of these things. So we're gonna be talking about that a little bit more today, identifying maybe some of how you're feeling and just kind of owning that and then chatting a little bit about what you can do to help lift your mood and stay sane and stay safe. So first I want to tell you that this episode is brought to you by the Authentic Sisterhood Academy, which is a collection of virtual courses designed to help you chase joy in the mundane and difficult circumstances of your life. The course list is constantly growing, So head over to authentic sisterhood academy dot com and declare yourself a joy chaser by signing up for your first course. All right, so first I want to just share with you a little bit about where I'm at with all of this. So you know that I'm not just preaching at you. I guess I'm preaching with you because this is totally a message for me to, uh, which is kind of why I decided to integrate it. We're actually gonna dio a new series starting this week. But I felt like there's there's a need for this conversation, I guess with everything that's going on just from social media and no, I am not the only one struggling. And so I felt like it was valid to stop and talk about that a little bit, because it's also Phil's, like, really inauthentic, um, to talk about chasing joy. When the majority of us are really struggling with some form of anxiety or depression. It feels like they're incompatible, but actually wanna talk about how rather than being incompatible ones. A cure for the other. So currently, um, I guess just for my story. A few weeks ago I found myself really struggling with anxiety. I started having panic attacks on it was right about the time we have a pet sitting business, and that's been our main source of income for about a year and 1/2. Now it pays almost all of our bills, and it gives us our free money and, you know, like play money and that kind of the thing. And without that income, we can't really make ends meet. And so the week that, like everything, started shutting down, it was like spring break. So spring break week. I had hope in two people who were out of town presently. And then the that weekend I had a couple of people who were supposed to go out of town, and I had in like, one day I had, like, three cancellations that I started to find out that some of my daily clients we're going to be canceling because they were gonna be working from home or they had lost their jobs. Even the are in that works in the era that they work for. She was actually gonna be boarding her dog. She didn't want to risk giving it to him and him being a carrier and then, like, re infecting her, anything like that. So she decided, like, during this whole chaos, to go ahead and board her dog with her other center. Who does boarding? We don't do boarding at our house. So, like, basically went from a several $1000 a month business to, like within seven days. Um, maybe $100 we're bringing in a month. And right now we have, like, no active clients s O that was That was a law and I struggled Thio remind myself that God is my provider because I had become dependent on this other source of income. And so I like I had a week where that whole week, I was just like I kept having panic attacks, but I couldn't breathe. And sometimes it wasn't even that I was really actively thinking about our financial situation or different needs or struggles. It was just like it was such a massive change. And I think I was acknowledging and accepting that our world, like our daily routines are life just like dramatically changed. And people keep saying when we go back to normal And the reality is I don't think we're ever gonna go back to normalcy. That air quotes I don't think we're ever gonna have a same normal. This has profoundly impacted the way that we live our lives daily and even as some of the regulations about social distancing and things let up and we discover a new normal will never know the normal of life Pre Cove in 19. And so there was like, this impact moment where I had a few days where I really had to take time to process that, Um, but my brain doesn't handle overwhelm very well. And significant changes like that sometimes are a little hard for me, and I know I'm not. That's not unique to me. I know a lot of us trouble the same, which is why we're talking about this. So I had about three days where fortunately my husband was a really good place because he his mental health struggles are significantly more profound than mine. But fortunately he was able to keep it together for those days on die just fell apart completely. I, like, had to just spend some time hiding in bed and vegging out just processing that. This was new. And that's kind of my usual routine of like when impact hits. I kind of just needs some time to retreat and process. If I remember correctly, it was like two or three days that I just kind of retreated into myself. I didn't really want to talk to anybody. I wasn't very pleasant to be around, so no one really wanted to be around me, either. But then I like there's a point where, like, I had to just say, you know what? Okay, this is it. We're moving forward. This is the normal. We're moving former. So we'll start talking about some some of the steps that I took to have that transition moment in just a little bit. But I won't talk about how I learned thes skills, because, um, I think it's also valid to know like, this isn't the first time that I've struggled with anxiety and depression, and also that that the dream didn't in there, too. I had that moment of impact of like anxiety, and then my anxiety has been significantly better since I started picking myself up. But then this last week I noticed that I was really starting to struggle with some depression, some science, that you might be depressed, that I want a list the's just because there might be some people who are experiencing depression that have never experienced it before. Or maybe a loved one is experiencing it, and you're just really frustrated with them because they're acting differently. But you can't really make sense of what's going on. So common symptoms or secret symptoms, hidden symptoms. I'm gonna put it of depression, turning down activities that you usually enjoy for me, what that looked like. I really love my work, and I, all of a sudden just like, wanted nothing to do with it on, and I really had to force myself to get up and get some work done. And the way I showed up in work was not the level of how it had been, and now that I'm kind of working through things the way I am currently. But I had a few days that I really struggled with work because I love my work. I also struggled with a spending time with my family just going on our evening walks or my husband and I have a routine of playing games in the evenings and playing board games or video games, and I really didn't like, even wanna participate with that. I just wanted to be alone. So that might be some of the ways that, like with social distancing, even you might see, like turning down activities or opportunities to really do things that you do actually enjoy doing always exhausted so many energy levels. I am probably don't know my story. Over the last year or so, I've been on a big health journey. I have lost £70 rotten in shape, and I'm continuing that journey with a goal this year of losing £100. And my energy levels and my mental health and all these different health struggles that I had when I entered the journey a year ago have really resolved with. For the most part, I haven't had any struggles with them. Um, and my sleep has having a really the consistent pattern, which is kind of like the first time in my life I've always kind of had weird sleeping patterns, but that had established itself well. And I've been sleeping really well for quite some time, and then all of a sudden this is kind of the next one to asleep in appetite changes. So where I was really content with eating my salads and going to bed early and getting up early and having energy for the day. All of a sudden, all I want is carbs, and I am struggling to go to sleep at night, and I'm really struggling to wake up. And I'd be content to stay up until three in the morning and sleep till noon, which, like if we didn't have a two year old, might not be the worst thing in the world, but with tear filled that causes some problems, cause that's not hisley things schedule. So that's just not realistic for me. But as a result, I've also just been like, extremely tired during the day. Um, and just like even the simplest activities just feel like they require a lot of energy and maybe even not physical energy, but just like emotional energy, where length of the day we're going to make some cookies and we had been planning for like, two days to make cookies. I gone to the grocery store and gotten all the things. I mean, it takes like, 40 you, but it's to make cookies. And that process just sounded so exhausting to me. I wasn't like it took, like, probably 20 minutes for me to talk myself into it because I was just really struggling with the fatigue related to the depression that I was experiencing was actually one of my clues of like, Oh, we're stepping into some depression and we need to address it. Irritability is another symptom. The might see. Um, for me, this looked like definitely being irritable with my husband and being really frustrated with him over the smallest of things. The poor guy was so patient with me still is. He's so amazing. But I got really frustrated about, like how the dishes were put away or have the laundry's put away. Okay, frankly, I get excited about some of those things brought on a regular basis, but I didn't express my frustration in a very patient way over the last week, and also some of my co workers, which I generally like, don't express may irritability too. People outside of my family and one of my co workers got the brunt of things and I felt so bad, like immediately, I just I felt about it and she was so gracious and forgave me. But I definitely saw an uptick in irritability over the last week and reckless behavior. Can't say that I came early to this one too much. But if you're looking at your behavior in the last couple of weeks and going like, man, that is not typically me, uh, or put perhaps like a loved one where maybe they're drinking MME. Or or just really just having behaviors that you're this is not you like what's going on? It's a point of conversation to be had for sure, and then definitely withdrawing is a symptom of depression of like it's not wanting to interact with people I was gonna run. Doctor goes really quickly symptoms of depression that you might notice now that would kind of be an indicator that cool you into that. Something else is going on, turning down activities you love, always exhausted, suddenly irritable, having good days and bad days like it can fluctuate. I forgot to mention this one before sleep in appetite changes sudden, reckless behaviors and withdrawing. Obviously, there's also like at the other level of depression where you're having, like overwhelmingly, like you can't cope, you're having suicidal thoughts, that kind of thing. And I mean, if if you're the majority of our conversations talking about mild to moderate depression here in this podcast. But I just wanted to stop and know if you're experiencing severe symptoms of depression, you're having suicidal thoughts. You're having thoughts of harming yourself or others. Please seek help. Even now, in this time of social distancing, many mental health clinics have telehealth options available, and there's also virtual platforms like talk space. And I know there's several others as well, where you cannot access a virtual therapist through like texting or phone calls. Or however you feel like you need to best connect. They have different options for that. I'm This podcast is not sponsored by them. It's I've used. Their service is before. They're really helpful in times where it's difficult to get out to clinic, and it's also really helpful. If you travel a lot typically or like you're you're moving like fairly often or something like that. Your job doesn't permit you to really be in one place, settled for a while and you keep having to change therapists. That's really exhausting to have to start with the new therapist, especially if you're in some ongoing therapy. And that was one of the benefits I found with talks Base was that I was able to connect with the therapist, and then when we moved or when my job requires me to be out of town for several weeks, I was able to stay connected with my therapist. I didn't have to find a new therapist. I didn't have to miss appointments because it was on my phone. So there's some benefits, like long terms that but especially right now with social distancing and things where we really can't go two appointments like that, they're They're huge benefits as well. So that's something to look into us. I mean, either way, like if you're having severe impression or even mild to moderate, I feel like therapy has been massively helpful in my life, and we're going to jump into my story in just a minute here on talk about that a little bit further, but I just wanted to stop and say like, Please get help if you feel like you need how there are people who want to talk to you as well as I want to just give you the suicide hotline number as well. In case that's really like where you're at, I want to give you access to get help right this minute. I'm in it. That's you. Look, please stop this podcast and just go ahead and call this number 802 738255 again that 802 738255 And I'll have that number in the description as well as a link to their website. They have, um, specialists that then counselors that you can chat with on their website as well, if you don't feel comfortable calling. So if you can. If you just scroll to the description of this episode, you can find all of that information. So share a little bit about my journey with mental health. Since I was 16 I've had struggles with anxiety, depression and maybe even younger to varying levels and degrees. It showed up at its worst with self injury and an eating disorder. It impacted me on a daily basis and the way that I was able Thio participate in life as an employee, as a student, as a daughter, as a sister, as a friend, it really impacted me profoundly. To some degree. I think it was because I had a chronic illness. I had enemy True Assis. I'm pretty much symptom free now, so it's not something that's as debilitating as it was at the time, but it was very debilitating back then, Um and then I was also put on some birth control medication to manage those symptoms that caused my symptoms toe worsen and some of the various treatments and things they went through. And then I think just the hormones of being a teenager sometimes aggravate things. But my mental health was definitely a struggle. And I'll share with you a little bit towards the end of this podcast, some of the ways that I overcame those things and go into detail of some of the tips and things, but I just wanted to share a little bit like that's kind of been a struggle for me and it has had varying levels, So between the ages of like 16 and 20 or so it showed up as like anxiety and depression that had simply it also had, like an eating disorder and self injury through counseling and did a lot of work and got to a pretty good place. And I didn't really have too many more profound symptoms for some time. And then when we had been after, I got married and we have been trying to get pregnant for I think we were about 18 months into our journey at that point, and I was 100% convinced I was pregnant. I was so sure that I was pregnant and that test just hadn't turned positive yet. I went into the doctor and they did an ultrasound and I was not pregnant, and it was so devastating to me. It was as the way had a miscarriage. Um, though I wasn't actually pregnant. And that led to severe panic attacks and severe depression where, like I, ironically, was working at a long term nursing facility that specialized in psychiatric care. But the difficulty there is the patients there are very emotionally difficult to handle. It was a very emotionally draining job and to be, like, already in such a bad place. Um, I left work crying multiple times, um, where I have to leave work early or different things like just completely, like, could not keep it together. I was I was a mess, and at that point, I had to go back on the medication. They hadn't been on medication for, gosh, like 10 years at that point and had to go back on medication and get a handle on myself again. Um, uh, started and therapy and had to really get active about being intentional about guarding my mental health. Andi, Since then, I have been better about being more intentional on a regular basis. Probably still not as intentional as I should be, but better. And so in my son, when we did get pregnant, like a year later, about halfway through the pregnancy, we found out that he was going to be born with half a heart here. And I felt like because of the journey that we had been on up to this point, I was well equipped to handle the emotional journey that was ahead of me. And so we allowed ourselves some healthy time of grieving where I feel like we didn't really. I didn't get into any kind of a significant depression at that point. I feel like I coped really in a healthy way, with the news of, like our greatest joy turning into our deepest sadness. And as he progressed through that journey and he was born, I definitely had some struggles in our hospital journey. I I really, really struggle with the loss of autonomy when you are staying in the hospital for any prolonged period of time. It gave me great anxiety. Thio not be ableto have control over the situation with my own son and even just like my own schedule for the day that I like. I really equated it to feeling like I was imprisoned because I was told when breakfast and lunch and dinner where I was told when I had to get up and when I could go to sleep and my sleep was frequently interrupted by unnecessary things. I was on a schedule for pumping and I like it like it was very frustrating. Um, and then just the fact that, like I have no control over anything where like I would be told OK, we're going home tomorrow. And then the next day they would say, Oh, no, actually, we're gonna do this. You're gonna be here another week and then, Okay, You're gonna go home tomorrow. No way. And like those changes just made me insane. So there was definitely some moments in that emotional jerking around where I did have some anxiety attacks and it did fall apart with postpartum hormones and then staying in the hospital and getting a little bit of that hospital psychosis where I didn't leave the hospital for more than seven days, I would really start to struggle. And so we had to come up with some new routines to survive that as well, to be intentional for me to not bite the heads off of the nurses on the Fuller. But I share all this to say, like I've my journey with my mental health troubles has come a long way in my ability to cope. If I had encountered the extreme stress of being in the hospital with my son when I was 19 I'm not sure that I would have handled it well because I just couldn't handle the stress of existing back then because I didn't have good tools and coping mechanisms for my natural tendency to be anxious and depressed. So I just want to talk through some five basic tips. Thio help you if you're feeling a little bit more blue than normal and this is new to you, or maybe just a refresher. If you are also like me familiar with anxiety and depression, these tips will work for either one. If you're feeling overly worried and anxious, errant struggling to let go of the worries of the fact that our normal just changed drastically, it'll also help with depression. If you're just struggling to engage with life and filling purposeless and checking out, these tips will help either way. First, I want to talk about journaling, and they actually have a whole board on my Pinterest that's dedicated to some journaling prompts and different tips for journaling with depression and anxiety. And there's actually two words. So if you had over to Pinterest dot com slash authentic sisterhood, you can check those out, and I've kind of curated some different content there. That would be really helpful for you through this for this content that we're putting out right now about anxiety and depression. You can head over there and see get more details on some different ideas. And also there's a new block post out at authentic sisterhood dot com slash log slash mental health. And there's a hyphen in between mental and health and that post I go into even more detail on hiking. Use journaling for anxiety and depression. There's a lot of different resource is they're different journal prompts and things like that. So if that's something that you wanna explore, I'll let you go explore those resources on your own. Otherwise, I could spend an hour or more talking about that here, But I'll just leave the I'll just say Go check out the block post and the those links him to the printer sent to the block will be in the description of this episode Next time on the chat about calling a friend and I talked a little bit about phone anxiety earlier, So if that's you, I've really like I thought that was just me. I didn't realize, like, Ah Holton of people experienced this. If that's you, I want to tell you about an app called Boxer. It's like Tex Mex Text messaging meets a phone call, so you have that dynamic of like you get to hear somebody's voice and you can talk to them and you can talk back and you have that expression with intonation and things that you get to hear. You get to actually hear someone's voice, which sometimes can just be really comforting if you're struggling with anxiety or depression, because you can hear the emotion in their voice and you can express your motion, and so that's that can be really helpful. But one of the things that I feel like a boxer does is it takes the anxiety out of a phone call. So with a phone call, I think it's because that you have to, like, stop what you're doing And then it's also like one of the things with my anxiety I really struggle with is feeling like I'm a burden to somebody else. So sometimes when I feel anxious about when calling someone is like, What if it's inconvenient that I'm calling them right now? Or what if something comes up and it's inconvenient for them to continue talking to me, I don't want it to feel like a burning to talk to me. Boxer eliminates that because you can send a voice message. I think there's a time limit, but I'm not sure what it is. I have left messages up to, like 11 minutes before and not been cost, so you can kind of rambling a little bit. I also struggle with interrupting people, and this forces me to listen without interrupting, which is great. You can leave a voice message, and then for that person, Whenever it's convenient for them, they can go back and listen to it like how you can do voice messages with I a messenger or with the Facebook Messenger app. Those usually have a time limit, and the functionality is car negligee. Boxer is really great and that you can like stuff like start and stop really easily. So if you need to put the phone down and go address your skin, baby and come back and finish listening, you can without a problem, and you can also like. So if someone leaves you Elin 11 minute message. Sorry if you've boxed me and I left you an 11 minute message and I brought up like 30 different topics in that 11 minutes you can like intermittently response a composite, leave a voice much is regarding the one topic and then go back and finish listening. So it's really great to be able to kind of talk back and forth about different things. And sometimes just talking with our friends that way makes it feel like you have a phone conversation. But it's more convenient. So check out Boxer. If that's something that might be helpful for you and a box of friend, catch up with them, especially in this time of social distancing that gets so good to just check in with your friends, just like sending your profiling and say, Hey, just found that this quote half but super fun. Let's, you know, hang out here and let's chat, especially if you have little kids. I get so helpful because you can, like, wait till they're not screaming to record your message. And then if they start screaming again, you can address that lake. It's it's it's a beautiful thing. So go check out Boxer the link again and say usual is in the description. Okay, so some more tips. So we've talked about journaling. I've talked about calling or boxing a friend. Get some sunshine. Vitamin D is happy drug sunshine it like it's just so good for you And with this whole stay home stay safe thing that means that we're getting even less sunshine Then we should be which, like generally we don't get enough anyways, So go sit out on your balcony. Go sit out on your back porch. Go get some sunshine, Go for a walk like just like let your skin see the sun and get those happy benefits from just being in the sun It will help lift your mood Maybe not instantly, but I find usually, like pretty instantly just after like 15 minutes of being in the certain things are just a little brighter. Pardon upon. Get some exercise. If you've ever seen Legally Blonde, you know that exercise gives you endorphins and endorphins make you happy and happy. People just don't kill their husbands. So don't kill your husband during quarantine and get some exercise. That might be that you're just going for a walker on the block. Be mindful of rules and regulations in your area. Some parks are closed. Some hiking trails and different things are closed. Make sure that you're maintaining social distance and don't get in trouble by any means. But in our neighborhood, like we're in a gated community and we're like, it's fine to go walk around. So we keep our distance from anybody else who's walking their dog or whatever. And we just go for a little walks, usually in the evenings and payments in the morning as well. We'll take Henry and we'll go out, Let him run around. And so we all get our exercise. This is one like, just like being totally, really. I've struggled with personally. I hade been struck, exercising like really diligently at, like 5 a.m. every morning for a while there and then I just really started to struggle. And that's one of my symptoms right now with the Depression is I'm really, really struggling. Thio get up and engage with exercise, and I do better in and like when I shift my environment to exercise. So if I show up in a gym or I show up at like a group run, where there there's the energy of others to feed off of than I like show up well for my exercise for the day. But if it's like a workout video or something like that, a real struggle. Personally, I have tried working with a beach party team. It's just it's not going well, so I'm I'm working on this actively. But you know, raising your heart rate more than just like a short walker on the block will definitely help with boosting your mood. And it's really good for me to have to tell you this, because it's reminding me that it's really important and that I really do need to prioritize getting up early tomorrow and figuring out some way to exercise and start my day off with a better foot tomorrow. So I'll be doing that, and I hope you'll join me. And then lastly, we'll talk just real briefly. Um, check your medicine and check your diet. So we talked a little bit about the hormones in birth control. You might check the side effects of any medications that you're on if you are experiencing some depression, likely if you've been on it for some time and not ever experience that, it's not a problem. But if you had it started any new medications recently or something like that. It's always worth checking if you have sudden onset changes in your mental health. It's not always recognized how much medications of a wide variety, like unrelated things, can cause depression. So, like you wouldn't necessarily think that birth control would cause depression. But it did, and that caused really significant depression for me. So make sure to check your medication and shot with your doctor. If you have concerns in, your pharmacist should be able to help us. Well, as for your diet and maybe I should say lifestyle, Um, it's worth noting that not just your diet, but like the chemicals and other things that you're exposed to, can also impact your mental health significantly. And so my clue for me was how much hormones are playing a role in my mental health with the birth control. So then when I found out that some of the chemicals in my laundry detergent in the chemicals that I used to clean my bathroom in the chemicals are in like my body wash in my shampoo and conditioner like various plastics, and things have like a similar impact to the way my hormones function as the way that the birth control does it. It changes how my hormones fluctuate in a negative way. They're called endocrine disruptors. And so when I found out that these chemicals and plastics things have a similar impact, it may be really realized that I needed to be more mindful about what I was exposing myself to. And there's indifferent disruptors in our foods as well. So I started making some really significant changes about a year ago in my exposure to things. And I have to say, like even though I've been experiencing some anxiety and depression the last month or so, my symptoms are by far so much better than they have been like ever before. In my life, things are much more manageable. And we're really just following these basic tips of journaling and reaching out to a friend when I'm struggling, getting some sunshine and exercising, making sure I'm eating right like that's really all I need. I'm not in a place of crisis. I'm just in a place where I need to be a bit more intentional about my habits, which really, if you have seen me on my journey in the past, you would know like it's super profound that that's where I'm at today. And I think a significant part of that is the fact that I have eliminated so many things from my body that were causing increased anxiety and depression symptoms. I have done several detox rounds of dieting and liver cleanses and things all partnered with my doctor eating really, really healthy. And, of course, with that exercise that allows my body to detox through sweating. And so, on this health journey that I've been on, I've been really intentional to eliminate toxins and endocrine disruptors, and that journey, I believe, has really helped me with managing my mental health. So if you're sitting at home and the eating a lot of processed food and obsessively cleaning your house with a lot of chemicals, it could be that simply those exposures to toxins are causing some of your anxiety and depression to be worse. So be mindful about what you're eating and what you're exposing yourself. Thio. There are ways to clean your house without the exposure to chemicals, and actually, some of the studies show that some of the natural cleaners are more effective than the chemical cleaners, So if you have questions about that. Feel free to drop me a message. I'd love to chat with you more anyways about this episode just to wrap things up. It's totally normal with everything that's going on to be experiencing anxiety and depression. If it's really severe where you feel like you're, um, not safe or you feel like you're you have thoughts of harming yourself or others, please reach out for help. Then, um, contact information for the National Suicide Hotline is again below in the description Acela's links for, um, talk space that I talked about a little bit. If you are looking for some tips, Thio use journaling. Thio presses through what you're feeling. Head over to the blogged on Pinterest that we talked about a little bit links again, or, in the description of this podcast episode errand work throughs, journaling call or boxer a friend. Get some sunshine, get out and get some exercise. Aaron checked Jud IA and the things that you're exposed Thio and you'll find. Hopefully, the air mood lifts a little bit, and your desire to chase joy increases. So that being said, thank you so much for listening to this episode today be sure to subscribe if you've enjoyed this so that you can get notified the next time a new episode becomes available. And just so you know, this podcast is available on pretty much every platform that has podcasts available. 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